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[00:00:00] Hey everyone, I'm Megan Tietz and this is sorta awesome.
In this episode, I'm introducing you to the third member of the regular co-host team for sorta awesome, my very dear friend, Kelly Gordon of lovewell blog.com. Today, Kelly explains how she became the voice. In the ear of local news anchors, as well as her secret to perfect meatloaf. Every time later I ask her what one thing she's always talking about, and her answer is so surprising.
I literally laughed out loud. All of that [00:01:00] and more plus our awesome of the week, coming right up on episode two of the sorta awesome podcast.
Hi, Kelly. How are you? I am so good. It is so good to be here with you, Megan. Yes. I'm so excited. I am so excited. We are finally sitting down and recording this first show together. I am too. And I just am a little giddy, honestly. Yay. To see all of the magic that you've already come up with. So there's a lot of magic.
I can't wait for it to finally, Yes, used to go to iTunes and then the magic can be spread to the world. That's right. Yes. Okay. Well, just to give everybody a little bit of context, um, I have known Kelly through blogging for a long time. I'm trying to do the math in my head, like the dinosaur age. I know, yes.
In blogging years. Okay. So I started blogging in 2006. I feel like I have known you through blogging, I feel like, at least since 2007. Does that sound right? That's when I started blogging, and I was [00:02:00] probably commenting on your blog before that because it was probably 2006 when I discovered the world of blogging.
Yes. And that there was this whole community that was forming out there. So I read blogs for a while and commented on them before I started my own. Do you realize as you're saying that, I'm like, that was almost 10 years ago. What on earth? Yeah. It wasn't. I cannot even deal with that. Was Eliza born, do you remember if Eliza was born when you started reading?
I do feel like. But like a toddler, like a baby. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So anyway, I have known Kelly through blogging for a very long time. We have traveled in the same blogging circles for many years and have gotten to know each other through. Um, through our writing and those types of things, and, um, have gotten to develop an even deeper friendship offline.
And truly, truly, Kelly is one of those big sister I never had people in my life. I am always looking to her for advice and handholding and hair petting of various [00:03:00] natures and for various reasons. So, yes. Anyway, and a lot of kindred spiritness. Yes. Kelly is also an e n F. like I am. Mm-hmm. . Mm-hmm. . And she's also married to a very strong definitive I N T J.
Mm-hmm. like I am. Mm-hmm. . So Kelly and I have lots and lots of conversations about relationship dynamics and how personality affects this and that. So we will probably in the future, completely geek out on personality stuff with you all. Oh, I hope so. Be prepared for that. She, Kelly. I know I can always go to her with any kind of personality stuff, not just related to our type and our husband's type, but we both just are pretty fascinated by that.
I think it, it's maybe it's part of the E N F P thing, I think, right? Yeah, I think so. And just being fascinated by all of life's little quirks. Yes. And beauties and really diving into it when you have the chance. Yes. So it's been a. Journey, and I've loved walking that road with you. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, so we are actually going to just go ahead and get started [00:04:00] on our first episode together.
So excited. So we're gonna start as we start every episode with sharing our awesome of the week. I know Kelly has something that she has brought. I'm gonna, I do. I'm gonna throw mine out there first because I feel like Kelly's is probably better than mine. this week. I doubt it. Yeah. We'll see, this is the first time I'm very nervous.
My hands are shaking. Oh goodness. No need to never stress over the awesome, because , that's what makes it awesome. Yeah. Okay. So my awesome of the week is actually that last week I got a new box from Stitch Fix. Hmm. Have you done Stitch Fix? I can't remember. I have not done Stitch Fix. Okay. But I'm super familiar with the concept.
Yes. Yes. I mean, it's, it's pretty well known in the blogging world, especially in this sort of mom blog world mm-hmm. in which we travel. Um, so this was probably, I, I'm thinking back, I think this might have been my fourth Stitch Fix box. Um, I'm thinking, yeah. So, um, I had [00:05:00] seen blogger. Talk about it for months and months and months before I decided to try it.
I was a little skeptical, to be honest. Um, because first of all, I'd heard that the prices were a little bit more than maybe I'm used to spending on clothes. Let's be honest. , I am such a, uh, I'm such a tight wad when it comes to clothing for myself. And I think growing up with, um, there was four kids in my family when I was growing up and my mom was a super bargain.
So I feel like, you know, I'm not one to go and just pay retail prices for something. I want to hit the clearance rack and get the best deal possible. Mm-hmm. . So I was skeptical about that. And then I was also a little skeptical. Skeptical because I know, um, you know, I just had read on their. Website, a lot of, you know, information, their FAQs and stuff.
And I knew that they only go up to, um, size 14 in their sizing. Mm-hmm. . And I was like, oh yeah, that's kind of, that's where I am. And then it's just a really hard body size [00:06:00] to fit. But I have to say, every single time I have gotten a fix, I have been completely wowed by how, like on the money they were with what they.
Awesome. And so you like your new box. I like it. Now I do have to say I only kept one thing, which that sounds funny. Like I'm so excited. It was my awesome of the week. I got one thing, , but for each of the things like, um, there was, there was each piece that I ended up sending back, like one of them, they always send a little accessory, which right.
I don't know. I could probably ask them not to send accessories, but I'm always hopeful. Okay. Next time they're gonna send us the right thing. Right? Right. Um, but this time they sent a, a necklace that was really beautiful, but it was like a really delicate dangly chain. Okay. And I was like, that would last two seconds with my toddlers and it would be destroyed.
So, um, and then the other things, like they sent a pair of jeans and plus it, I, I do need to put back in my notes, that's one thing I do love about Stitch Fix is you [00:07:00] leave notes for your stylist and they really, truly, or I feel like they really, truly. listen to, uh, to what you're telling them. Um, jeans are like super hard for me and I don't even wear jeans that much for everybody.
Yeah. Yeah. They always have great brands and really cute things, but like I just don't wear jeans very often. So that was kind of like, oh shoot. That was my fault. I forgot to stick a note in that said, no jeans please. Um, one was a dress that I ended up sending back that was darling, and it was completely my style, but it was just a smidge too.
Okay. Um, another one was a top that was really cute, but it was plaid. And I have a lot of plaid in my closet already. Yeah. But, so I ended up keeping this really gorgeous, like really rich, um, blue. I don't, I feel like there should be, like I, uh, if I was a fashion blogger, maybe I would have the vocabulary to describe this blue, but it was really, really pretty, uh, blue Doman top, which I have never tried a doman top on.
Um, on the rack I was really, I don't know. Okay. I know that term, but describe it for me. [00:08:00] Okay. What is the Doman top? Okay, I'm gonna, well, first of all, I'm gonna leave a visual in the show notes because I will destroy this explanation. that. So it's a casual type and it's kind of slouch. And then it has, and I'm showing you, Kelly and I are watching each other, we're talking to each other on Skype right now.
So I'm showing her, but it kind of has like this, um, extra material drap like a draper. Yes. Drape under the arms. It's just like a really relaxed fit. Um, and it was beautiful. And as soon as I put it on, I was like, this is totally a keeper. So even though I only ended up keeping one thing, there's something that just about the surprise of like, here's a box of clothes that I get to try on, um, and try on in your home, in my home at a time when no one's bothering you.
Yes. You know, you don't have to do it in a changing room where you're like, get down, don't, don't touch it. Don't crawl under the air. Right. Yes. Don't touch that. Don't lick that. Put, get it outta your mouth. Kelly, don't like that. Kelly has four kids like I do. And is familiar, familiar with [00:09:00] the struggle? Of trying to shop for clothes for yourself with your children along.
Yes. So yes. Anyway, that was my awesome the week. I love Stitch Fix. Another thing about Stitch Fix too is that they just now have come out with a petite line and also maternity. You're kidding. You can now do your maternity shopping through Stitch Fix Genius. That is absolutely genius of him. Yes, I. Super thrilled for them that they're doing that.
I don't know that I will ever use the maternity shopping service as I don't think you will. figures crossed, right? Yep. Fingers' cross. We're not gonna go that direction. Yes, but that's super smart for them. Yes. Because you know their audience, right? They do. Yes. And I do feel like a lot of. Younger than us women use Stitch Fix.
Mm-hmm. . And so that's definitely, definitely a great ad for them. I did email to ask them, you know, I love that you expanded into petite and maternity. Do you think you'll be expanding into a plus sizes anytime soon? They said it's something that they're constantly working on. They don't have a, a timeline that they could give specifically right now, [00:10:00] but that that's something they are very aware of and they're working with their sources.
So I'm hopeful that sometime that they'll Yeah, bump out into plus sizes as well. Right. Anyway, I loved it. I got new clothes, I got a new top, and it's beautiful and it makes me happy every time I look at it and every time I put it on. And I bet it's something that you probably would not have picked out if you were in a store.
Oh, and I think that's what Stitch Fix does to people. It kind of pushes you outside of maybe your normal comfort zone. It, it really does. Yeah. And I do have to say, I have heard people say, Ugh, I didn't like Stitch Fix. I felt like they totally missed my style. I have to say this. When you sign up for Stitch Fix, they take you through this process where they kind of like give you sample outfits.
Like, would you, how would you rate this? How willing, you know, how much does this match your personal style? Those types of things. And that's helpful. But I think what has really made the difference for me is I have a really, um, like I'm super active on Pinterest in pinning to my own personal style board.
Okay. I basically only use Pinterest now for [00:11:00] recipes and clothes. , . Hey, you just have prioritized that's what you've done. I have. You specialized. Yes. I have curated my Pinterest time down to two priorities for me. Um, but I really do very often pen to my Pinterest style board. That link is in my Stitch Fix profile.
all of my stylist so far that you get a little card with their explanation of why they picked what they did. You get a styling card where they give you visual ideas of how to style each piece. I love it. So helpful. I actually keep the styling cards just because their ideas are super cute and you can like, well, I can, I mean, I guess in my mind just sort of like think, okay, I'm not keeping this particular piece, but I have something similar in my closet, right?
And I could totally style it this way. So I feel like I'm sort of cheating the system a little bit. Like I'm getting like real stylists ideas. On how to style different pieces. But I do feel like they really do look at my boards a lot. Almost every single box they'll say, I saw, you know, I saw that you pinned this really similar dress, [00:12:00] like the dress that they sent this time.
This looks really close to something you had just pinned. So that's why I chose this for you. So I think that having. , a Pinterest board like that, or some kind of something where you can be like, this is the style that I like. The more information you give your stylist, the better your fixes are. I feel like.
So, right. I have spent, I think that's the beauty of Pinterest really. Yes. Is that you can kind of collect these things in a really simple way. Totally. Digitally. Mm-hmm. Hmm. that can help you see Yes. What your style really is. Or help a stylist. Yes. Really see what your style is. Totally, totally. So even though going back to what you asked, I would never have picked up this top.
Again, I just felt like, well it's, it's kind of a s slouchy drapey look and with my particular body type, I don't know how that's going to look. I probably never would've picked it up off the rack, but when I actually put it on, I was like, oh my gosh, this is darling. Where have you been all my life? Yes. So anyway, so I am loving it.
That's my awesome, uh, the week. Awesome. Okay. So here's my awesome of the week. Okay. And it goes to [00:13:00] your Pinterest. When you said your boards. Yes, I have come down to clothing and food. Yes. My awesome of the week is food. Yes. Bring it on, bring it. So we're just gonna do a really, I was trying to think it's, it was hard for me.
I will, I will share this. It was hard for me to pick a first awesome of the week because, I kind of see a Lego movie in my head. Everything is awesome. It was hard for me to narrow it down to one thing, but this is what I thought. If I was sitting across a table, a literal table from you at a coffee shop.
Yes. And I thought, what would I wanna tell you? Something that has been in my life that has been super practical and has made me happy. Mm-hmm. , it has been. A dish that I found this winter, bring it on. And it's a healthy meal. Okay. And my family likes it. Yes. That's huge. Right? It's not just me. I have a, you know, I like a lot of things, but the kids are like, yes, no, no, thanks.
Mm-hmm. . Yes. What is that? Yes. So it is a Chipotle laed, Turkey meatloaf. Oh my gosh. And you serve, it's amazing. I know. [00:14:00] Mashed sweet potatoes. Oh gosh. And really right there, that could be a meal. You could. right there. Yeah. You could, um, like supplement it with some other veggie or, you know, bread or whatever you wanna do.
Yes. I can think on the pictures of it. They just have it with like limes if you wanna just be ultra healthy. But here's the thing is it's got Turkey. Yes. So it's kind of a different, sort of a meatloaf. Yes. But it's really super simple to make. It's got that Chipotle. Oh my gosh. You know adobo Yes. A wonderful Mexican seasoning and you, you glaze it with that love.
And then you put it in the oven on a tray. I actually, here's my little secret. The recipe says, and we can I'm sure in the show notes. Oh yes. Put a link right to the recipe. Totally. The recipe says like most meatloaf, they want you to cook it in a bread pan. In a loaf pan. Yeah. Yeah. But I read years ago that, of course the best part of meatloaf is the crusty stuff.
Oh yeah. On the outside. Yeah. So just shape it like a loaf, like shape it into a brick. Okay. And. That way. So you don't even put it in a loaf pan? No. What? What kind of pan do you use then? [00:15:00] I just put it on a tray, put it on a baking sheet put, and the juice doesn't dribble out everywhere a little bit. I put tinfoil down.
Okay. Cuz I don't even like to scrub, so I put some tinfoil down. Okay. And I shape it into a loaf and then you glaze it with the sauce, you know, with whatever. In this case, it's a Chipotle sauce. and a little bit of the liquid comes out, but not much. It's amazing. And it does get, then you have, oh, I guess since it's Turkey, it's doesn't have the fat, it's already lean.
It doesn't have Right. It's leaner than most. Okay. I was thinking about a, a ground beef meatloaf, but yeah, I bet. A Turkey meatloaf. But I've done ground beef that way too. Okay. And it works. It still works. So, I mean, you, my life a little bit, the juice, but you know, you get all that crusty. Yeah. Yum. Crunchy, salty stuff.
So that's their, and then what they have you do is just around on the same pan, in the same oven, you bake sweet potatoes okay? At the same time. So you can put it all in the oven at once and go help with homework or , break up a fight or whatever you need to do. Yes, . Well, dinner is cooking and then you come back the last few minutes of when the [00:16:00] meatloaf is cooking.
You take those baked sweet potatoes out and you, you know how. Baked sweet potatoes are really easy to peel. Yes. The peel gets all yes, yes. Pulls away from the flesh of the potato. Mm-hmm. So you peel those, throw those potatoes in a pot and just use a masher and mash 'em up with some olive oil and salt.
And they are wonderful. I mean, the whole meal, I'm, I'm actually kind of all hungry now. I, I have to describe myself into, sounds delicious. I'm like, can I go to the store and get some Turkey? So I. Right, the meatloaf tonight. That sounds amazing. And it was just fun. It was kind of a different sort of meal. I think that's why I liked it.
Yeah. Was you know, Turkey meatloaf with also this kind of Mexican inspired sauce. And it's kind of a, to me it's a springy sort of thing cuz you wanna put cilantro with it. Okay. I know we have a cilantro difference, but get your cilantro away from me, me . You don't have to, you don't have to put cilantro on.
Do not. Delicate Daylan. So for people who don't like Solano, totally optional, you do not have to put soap on your meatloaf. That's not what I'm saying. Thank you. Thank you. But lime. [00:17:00] Lime is almost a necessity, like squeeze lime on the whole thing. And so it's kind of that spring like we're all coming back to life.
Yes. Wake up your taste buds. Ooh. Yeah. And hopefully your family likes it sort of a meal. Yes. That sounds incredible. We will totally link that because I'm going to be making that this week. I am just, Starving. That sounds so good. . Um, okay, so let's talk about kids and meals for just a second. Really fast. I did, I mean, this is just off the cuff, but so you, like I said, you have four kids, um, and, and they range in age from four and a half.
Four. And he would tell you yes, four and a half. Gotta get the half age. They're very important. Yes. To 13. So now, I mean, you've moved past toddlerhood. Mm-hmm. . So you have your kids around the table. Do you do the whole. , you have to do a no thank you helping kind of thing. If it's not their favorite, like, you know, I fall victim, especially in toddlerhood to just like, , what will they eat here?
Yogurt and fruit for every meal. Maybe some [00:18:00] peanut butter and milk. I mean, if they'll eat it, I'll serve it. And now, especially now that I have two toddlers, and I know that's terrible. I shouldn't be doing that, but it's just so much, you know, I get so stressed out when they're not eating anything. But, but one great thing, the, the girls you know, at 10 and seven and a half are, you know, they understand like, this is.
you will eat and this is what you are offered. And you know, if you don't eat now, you're gonna be hungry later kind of thing. Like you, they've moved into that place of mentally being able to understand that. So yeah, it's not a, not a concern anymore. So at your house though, how does it, because I know you're a pretty in vitreous cook.
I feel like I am. Yeah. So how does that go over? We haven't talked about yet, but my husband who travels lots of times. Yes, yes, yes. So that's made a difference in how I approach mealtime with my kids too. So I'll take, I'll tell you, this is what I do when he's gone. Mm-hmm. , I cook more kid-friendly sorts of foods.
Okay. I think about what will they eat right and what [00:19:00] not necessarily that everybody's gonna be jumping up and down about. Right. Right. Because That's right. They, you know, it seems like there's never one thing that they're all excited about. Mm. But generally speaking and meals that are fairly easy for me to cook.
So this could probably be a whole other show because I've had to develop Yeah. A, a whole repertoire of recipes Yes. That I can tackle, but that aren't, when KO first started to travel and the kids were younger, I will say this, I think that makes a difference, that they're a little older. It was survival mode when he was gone.
Oh, absolutely. So it was grilled cheese. Mm-hmm. and pancakes and waffles and chicken nuggets. Yes. Ad nauseum. Yes. , but I got tired of that. And then I thought, this is half of our life at this point. You know, we, we don't wanna be eating this way all the time. So I had to kind of find a compromise. Yes. So the weeks that he's gone, I cook a little bit more kid friendly.
Okay. The weeks that he's home, all bets are off as far as they're concerned. And I, they know that I've said that. I'm not cooking for you anymore. I'm cooking for our whole family. Yes. And to expand. [00:20:00] P beyond just orange foods. Right. Which is what they would eat. Right. You know, mac and cheese and Cheetos and all the things that are orange.
Mm-hmm. that are unhealthy. , of course not, not carrots so much. Although they do like that, not so much with the carrots and the, yeah. Right. Mm-hmm. , they just happen to be orange. They're not, they don't have the soul of orange food that they're looking for . But when he's home and I'm cooking this kind of food that they may or may not like, We have kind of staggered rules.
Okay. So for the four and a half year old, our rule right now is he has to try a bite. Okay. Right. So like the No thank you. Helping is what we call it. Yes. So yes. Right? Mm-hmm. . So last night it was St. Patrick's Day. That's the time we're recording this. Yes. I made. A cabbage dish that was new to me. Mm-hmm.
because I feel like I should . Yeah. I have Irish in my blood. It was your responsibility of course was Yes. And we're not gonna eat corn beef. Like that's one. I'm gonna draw the line there. Okay. I was making mashed potatoes and I was like, I should make cabbage. So I made this cabbage dish, and that's a whole [00:21:00] other topic, but my kids were.
Let's say not enthused about the cabbage. Actually my husband, who will eat almost anything, was not enthused about the cabbage . You were like, I regret this decision. Yes, . So I ate a lot of cabbage for dinner last night cause I went all go to waste. But I said, you know, just one bite. So they, you know, they tried it and my daughter, the one who is the oldest one, she's 13, she said.
That's not as bad as I thought it would be. . That was like the best compliment we could get. But she tried it. She didn't have to eat everything on her plate. Um, other nights when I'm not making something that's brand new, that's cabbage for our older kids who are 14 and 11, our rule is you eat it all like you can if you're gonna get a treat now.
So we say if you're gonna eat all your food mm-hmm. that I'm putting on your plate, fruit, vegetables, you know, protein. , then you can get a treat. But I don't know, sometimes we just vary on whether they can actually just walk away and say, I'm not hungry. Right. Or I don't want to eat it. Right. Right. Um, the seven year old, she can walk away mm-hmm.[00:22:00]
and said, I'm the, a treat is not worth eating. Sure. That Yes. Yes. And the four year old for sure. Yes. And he walks away a lot of nights affect his new thing, he'll eat what he wants, whatever it is. Mm-hmm. if it's the meat or the potatoes, and then he'll say, I don't wanna treat, I'm done. Yes. Yes. Because.
Right. So that's how we tackle it is kind of in an age thing. Because you're right. When they're little, to some degree, you do just have to be wise. And yes, maybe this is because we both have four kids. Yes. But you say fight your battles. Yes, totally. Where you want to fight them. Mm-hmm. and don't, don't fight every battle all the time.
You'll just. Collapse. Exactly. That's so true. And especially by dinnertime. Like I don't have a lot of fight. I don't have a lot of fight in me and, and whatever I do have left, I gotta say for bath and bedtime. So , there's just some practical reality there. So, you know, you said, I feel bad even saying this, and I'm thinking you shouldn't feel bad, sister, because this is the way of women.
Yes. And we know we give each other graves. Yes. And we say, You know, ideally yes, we would all be sitting down to a completely organic, [00:23:00] no carb. Yes. Right. You know, dinner every night. And that's just not reality all the time. So we do the best we can. Totally. Okay, well thank you for that insight. That's really good.
And you know what, I think maybe we should in the future, do a segment where we talk about like best kid, kid-friendly meals that you know in the repertoire that you go back to over and over. , we'll, we'll uh, sort of put that on the shelf for another day cuz that I'm sure is super interesting. Okay. Okay.
So as you all know who are listening at this point, uh, for each of my regular co-hosts, I've put together a short interview to introduce them to you all so you can get to know them better since they're going to be with us on a regular basis. So right now I'm going to go ahead and start grilling Kelly.
She's now officially in the hot seat as I ask her these things. And again, if you have missed the very first show of sort of awesome, you can go back to the very first episode and I answer all of these questions [00:24:00] as well, so I'm not making. Reveal anything that I haven't also revealed to you all. So you can go back to that first episode and hear my answers to these questions.
But for now it is Kelly's turn. . So Kelly, I want to start with asking you, if you wouldn't mind, to take five minutes to just kind of tell us your life story. And you know, as both of us as e nfps, this is basically the question that we wanna ask every single person that we ever meet. Like, amen. Let's sit down right here where we are.
And I just need to hear your life story really quickly. . Yeah, so, so it's a good exercise for us to try to do it. Yes it is. Instead of just ask other people to do it. Exactly. Okay, so five. Your life story. Here we go. Okay. So when I was thinking about this question, because you so graciously were Yes, I did.
Able to prepare me a little bit Yes. So that I didn't have to, right now deer in the headlights. I was thinking, you know, one of the things that I really love is regionalisms, you know, the, all the different ways that our country's different. I mean, the whole world. You can talk about cultural [00:25:00] differences forever with me.
Love it. Because it's just super fascinating. That's so fascinating. So I thought I would tackle it a little bit that way because I've moved. a little bit. So I was born in Cincinnati, which I never knew that, which is Yes, it, it's, I actually lived in northern Kentucky, if you know that region. It's divided by the Ohio River.
So we lived across the river, but the major city there was Cincinnati. Okay. I lived there when I was little. Um, my father was a pastor. Mm-hmm. , he's retired now, so that's why I say was, but he was a senior pastor our whole lives. I am the oldest of four. Mm-hmm. . So I was born, actually, my mom gave birth to me.
I think the day. before or the day that the church actually voted him to be senior pastor. Oh, wow. And he was in his twenties and it was a fairly large church. Oh, wow. So it, they kind of laughed. They said, you kind of gave us legitimacy, you know, , , yes. I'm a father now I can do this. Yes, yes, I can handle it.
So we were there, um, for a few years. We moved when I was between second and third grade, um, to Dallas and lived there for a year. Okay. . [00:26:00] I don't have a ton of memories of that area, but of course I say, that's why I can truly say y'all. Yes, which, and it goes right off your tongue like it does. Does.
Especially now that I have so many friends. Yes. Like you who say it genuinely, authentically. Yes. I say it all the time now. People look at me funny in Minnesota where I live now too, like, but I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. I can say y'all and all y'all, all y'all. It's true. Mm-hmm. . Okay. Because I lived in Dallas for one year people, so back off
Um, when I was 10 we moved to Minnesota, and this is where I live now. It's not where I've always lived, but, um, this is really the place that, because I was in fourth grade, you know, there was just a. Becoming still for your life? Of course. Oh yeah. So even though I remember that transition of childhood, this is really my home.
So because my dad was a pastor, I think a good thing to note in my life story is that I grew up. really deep inside the American Evangelical Christian bubble. Mm. Because I was at church every time it was opened. [00:27:00] Right. And my parents were, uh, big believers in Christian schooling. So I went to Christian schools, okay?
Mm-hmm. . So I did that when we lived here and really only knew people, you know, that believed like I did, right. Um, and it wasn't until I was in high school, I was in ninth grade and I started to get to know kids more of my youth group at my church. And their faith, which is a big part of my life, um, seems so much more genuine than anybody that I knew at my Christian school.
So I switched at that point to public school and it was so good for me. Like I look back and it was. It woke up my faith, it made so many things become real to me. Sure, sure. That's, let me, let me interrupt you and just ask really quickly, I never knew that part of your story. Mm-hmm. , did you, like, how did you app approach your parents about that?
Did you, did you just out and out say like, I feel like my public school friends, you know, challenge me more in my faith. Or if they were already big believers in Christian schooling, how did that transition? on their end? That's a good question. [00:28:00] It's a really good question. And I think it was scary for them.
Honestly. My brother who's three years younger than I and I both went to them the same year. Wow. And said, we went out. And the funny thing was is that up to that point, of course, Christian school is a sacrifice for almost any parent. Just that because it's, sure. You know, there's not, transportation's usually not involved.
Right. They were driving us and tuition is expensive. Sure. And so they used to kind of threaten. You know, as parents do in a nice way. I mean it in a nice way, but like, if you don't, do you wanna leave the school? Oh no, please don't let me, make me leave the school. My God, don't make me go to, don't make me go to public school with the heats, with the people who are gonna ask me, you know, to do horrible things.
So they always, you know, that was the, the way that our relationship was. And then all of a sudden in one year, my brother and I both went to them and. We need to get out. So it like the paradigm shifted for them? Yes. Okay. And they, they saw that we, we asked for different reasons. I was pretty honest about my faith.
Mm-hmm. Saying, you know, I feel like this is a stagnant puddle mm-hmm. Over here. Mm-hmm. And I need to [00:29:00] get out into a bigger pond. And my brother just wanted to place. Sports cuz our Christian schools didn't have any . Yes. Those completely legitimate reasons. Totally. Gotcha. Totally . So that was how it happened and I think that on, uh, to their credit, it was a little scary for them to Sure.
Send us off. I was a sophomore and he was a middle school to, you know, the big bad public school. Yeah. But really I look back at that and I'm so glad they. enabled us to take that step because it was so important to my faith and to my relationship with God and how I viewed the world. It was a really good step.
So Awesome. I'm sorry I didn't mean to interrupt, but I just, just as a parent. Oh, just think, cuz you know, you and I have talked about schooling stuff a lot. It's always on my mind, so that just really struck me. I never knew that you had approached them about leaving Christian school to go to public school.
So, okay. Sorry. Didn't mean to get you off track that. No, it's, it's, you know, we can go back cuz that actually, just seeing that God was bigger mm-hmm. than I had imagined. And being with people, it was so refreshing to me to be with people who. All believe the exact same thing. I was ready to do that, you [00:30:00] know?
Yeah. Yeah. So the, the funny thing in some ways is that I went back to a Christian college Yes. To get my degree, and I actually even went a year early. In Minnesota, there's a program called Post-Secondary Education where you can obtain college credit, you can actually go to college and the state pays for it.
Sure. Okay. So my senior year of high school, I went to college full-time because I knew what I wanted to do, Uhhuh, . And that was a thing that was kind of funny about me actually. I had like, Different careers. That's very emc, right? I, I was like, okay, how do I choose one? People are going, what am I gonna do with my life?
And I'm like, I have two. I have, I need more lives. . I need more lives to get done. All the things that I wanna do. Yes. But I relate to that 1000%, yes. Okay. Yes, I know you do , but my thing, my number one was journalism. So I wanted to go and tell other people's stories. I loved the medium of, um, especially video journalism.
So that's what I did. So, um, went to school, got my degree in journalism and. Pretty quickly got married. My husband and I, uh, before I had [00:31:00] graduated from college, we got married and as soon as I was done, we were like, we are so outta Minnesota. It is like so dang cold here. Yeah, we're outta here. We are done.
And so we moved like to the opposite end of the spectrum Phoenix. That is, that's what to do. That's radically different. And it didn't really go all that well. I wouldn't say that it is a recipe for success in any way. For you to grow as a person or as a married couple. , yes. So that was a chapter that is a little dark, but we eventually, we were only in Phoenix for about half a year.
We moved to San Diego and then we were there for about 10 years. Oh my gosh. Um, and I love California, really? Minnesota is where I grew up and where I live now, but my personality is pretty evenly split between mm-hmm. . , kind of my Midwestern up north roots and my California spirit. Yes. Because California is my people like, yes.
You know, no hose wearing flip flops, suntan. Mm-hmm. hang out by the beach, whatever man, whatever. And so Good. You are a gorgeous blonde too, [00:32:00] so, and I will have, you'll. You all will be able to see her picture on , uh, the co-host page. So, um, but yeah, I mean, you look like California for real. You do so well, I'll take that as a compliment because I'm, I'm sure when y'all moved out there that.
you probably got mistaken as a native bec. I mean, seriously, like you just have that sort of aura about you. Yes. In some ways. And I think that especially because the personality fit. Yes. Um, so I, I worked in, I was always a waitress, like through a food server, through college and even high school to make money.
So I was there too. It was a good job to go back and forth. You know, when you move to new community and are looking for a job you can almost always find, yeah. waiting tables sort of job. Sure. Mm-hmm. . So I worked at a group of community newspapers in San Diego that were right along the beach. Oh my gosh.
So there's all these little beach towns. Ugh. And so I just, you know, just drinking that in that culture of California and I just thought these, this is like home to me. It really is. Yeah. So I loved being there and I loved working. Eventually I [00:33:00] worked most of my time there at the NBC station as a TV news producer and loved it kind of got burned out.
So, um, producing new segments. Mm-hmm. , that's what you did, right? I produced new shows, actually. New shows. So like the whole half hour. Okay, so I'm just gonna again, derail you. You're gonna wanna kill me by the time. Totally fine. This is over. So what, it's gonna take more than five minutes. That's all . Just like what would it, what would your typical day look like then?
Like were you, were you actually doing any like interview type things or were you. , just like the nuts and bolts of production. What, what was, what would that mean to produce a new show? Well, I, the first thing I always told people when they found out that I worked at KS D, they would say, oh, well I see you on tv.
I'm like, only if something goes drastically. Well, like my point. Only if the studio's on fire , right? Like, or maybe I'm running behind somebody. Woo. Uh, my job was to. as a producer of a newscast, you are in charge of the whole newscast, so [00:34:00] you're deciding what stories Okay. Are gonna run in your newscast, what order they're gonna run in.
Okay. To some degree, possibly What reporters cover what, although you work as a team with the other newscast and the assignment desk, who's actual like command central of a newsroom, they assign Okay. Stories to reporters and photogs. Okay. Who go out and actually, you know, get the information. Occasionally.
I did do interview. over the phone, or I would write up a list of questions if it was a shorter story. Mm-hmm. , I could say to a photographer. You know, we don't really need a reporter's presence on this. Mm-hmm. , because a reporter puts together what's called in any other business. It would be called a story in TV news if a reporter does the whole thing, it's called a package.
Okay. And so a reporter when they, you know when the anchor tosses the reporter? Yes. And the reporter says, thanks, Bob. Here's what's breaking tonight. And then they, they go to a whole story that's called a package. Okay. So they would produce that whole thing if it's a smaller thing that the anchor just reads mm-hmm.
mm-hmm. . And there might be a little sound bite from somebody. , I could do that in the sense that I could write up my [00:35:00] questions, send it with a photographer who would just ask it and bring it back, and then they would edit the tape to go under. what the anchor reads. Gotcha. But what my job was mostly was to write.
I wrote the intros, I wrote the, a lot of the other stories. I had writers who worked for me as well. And then also the biggest, and this is kind of the funnest part of TV news, but also the part that kind of fries you is you're responsible for ordering the show and also dealing with any interrupt. Or breaking news stories.
Oh, okay. So you could, in the morning meeting, say, well, I think this would be a great story, and then I'm gonna go this, and then I'm gonna do this and this and this. But it's constantly changing. And inevitably, if a half an hour before your show, there's a car wreck, an accident, or let's be honest, this was Southern California.
Michael Jackson was seen on the freeway somewhere. Yes. Oh my word. Deploy the helicopters. Break up your show. It does not matter that there are people hungry in Africa anymore. Michael Jackson is on the freeway. People , you're, you're like scrambling. Yeah. Okay. And so you would have to like on the fly right [00:36:00] then?
Yes. Reorder the whole show that you'd already Yes. Ordered out and, and find new tape and what's coming in. And you're also talking to your anchors. You know, if you've ever seen a TV show or a movie with like holding their ear, the holding. Wait, I'm hearing this. So we're the voice in their ears, like telling them going, you're the voice.
We're the voice in the. You have connected so many dots with just that sentence. Okay. So that's what I did. I, I was really a writer and you really, in the sense of producing, taking many d disparate parts and putting them together. That's what I did. Okay. I love it. Okay. I never knew, I knew that you worked behind the scenes and news, but I didn't know that that was specifically what you were doing.
Yeah, that is amazing. Get back to your life stories. Yeah. So, so that's what I did. But because of that, you think about that kind of pace. Yeah. And I love that kind of piece. Like it was though. Yes, exactly. Yeah. And you don't really, you know, like in a lot of professions, and certainly ours is not, and , how do I say this about, make it sound bad.
There are people who work 24 7 who are noble, who are doctors and EMTs. Yes. And we're like, [00:37:00] you know, TV news people, but yet we did work 24 7. You didn't have Right. You know, people worked overnights. You never had holidays that were for sure off and that sort of thing. So just the hours were hard on, again, on our marriage and just on me.
Yes. So eventually I actually went and took a completely. Different pace. Job at a Christian college in San Diego called Point Loma Nazarene University. They're also right on the beach. Beautiful campus, and I did media relations there and then went from there to be what I think is probably described as the worst high school teacher in the history of the world.
You hold that title, everyone else can relax. I do. Yes, exactly. That is me for at least a year and a half. I love teenagers. Actually met my husband because we were youth group leaders. Mm-hmm. and. How car teach high school. I could teach high school . I know. And it was a high school, that was a private high school that actually had media.
So I'm teaching media, so I'm like, I'm not responsible for somebody. Right. Who's actually has to take this skill in the sense of like reading, writing, taking, you know, ACTTS, this is an elective, [00:38:00] right? Yes. And I was abominable at like, I've had no teaching methods, no experience, no curriculum. Oh my word. It was so bad.
It was an utter disaster, but it was, it taught me a. I'm a better person than today, than I used to be. Really? I mean, and I did have fun and I had, um, some amazing students and so it wasn't like it was a total disaster, but it's, it was, there were some very trying moments, let's just say. So at that point, something happened that really changed the trajectory of our lives, and it was something that we had not really pursued.
And that was, I got pregnant. Okay. And we had spent the first, we had been married for about eight years at that point. Did not want kids. Like that just was not gonna be our thing. Whoa. And. We, as they say, pulled the goalie like, well, why not? Let's just see what happens and boom. And what happened was, and what happens happens
And so I got pregnant and was very, um, okay, I guess we're doing this. And Natalie was born. [00:39:00] and when they laid her in my arms mm-hmm. , I honestly think something in my DNA shifted. Mm-hmm. Because I had spent, you know, almost 30 years of my life up to that point going, kids, whatever. Yeah. No. Part of my life dream and here was this little baby placed in my arms.
Mm-hmm. . And I looked down at her and I thought, oh. . I had never fallen in love so fast. So hard. Oh my gosh. I'm gonna cry. That is so beautiful and so true, so and so, so true. It's true. And I don't think it's that way for every parent, you know? Sure. It always happened that way, but it happened that way for me and all of a sudden, I could not imagine doing anything.
Mm-hmm. . But being a stay-at-home mom, the thing that I had always sworn I would never do. Right. Like even under threat of torture. Yes. And I loved it. So since Natalie was born, we moved back to the Midwest, to the Minnesota area, and then eventually to the Twin Cities when she was not quite two. And then, so we had three other kids, as you said.
We have four. Yes. So we have Connor and then Taylor, and then Kiran. So there's Girl, boy, girl, boy. Yeah. We're now 14, 11, 7, and four and a. And [00:40:00] a half and I've been at home with them, um, ever since Natalie was born. Wow. As a stay-at-home mom. And really, I've said this to a number of people, one of the biggest surprises of my life and I thank God smiling at me like, yep.
I so know better than you, is that I have loved it. Yeah. I love being home with my kids. Love it. Love it. And so, um, Corey as you mentioned earlier, just cuz I'm sure this will come up in future episodes, Corey has a job and has had for quite a while it seems like, um, where he travels a lot. Yes. During, during the week.
Um, and so that I'm sure plays a huge role in just the dynamic around the house. So yeah, he's always traveled some, but it was probably, I would say the last. Five or six years that it really got to be almost a every other week sort of schedule. Right, right, right. when, and like you said, that's kind of a, a whole separate show because of what the dynamics of that does to your family and all of that.
It does help a [00:41:00] lot now. Mm-hmm. that our kids are older. You know, when the little babies, oh my gosh. Just so desperate to get a break and yes. We didn't have family who lived near us at the time. Right. So you know, you just on your own. Yes. As a single, I'd say solo parent because, so parent, I have so much respect for my friends who are true single parents.
Yes, yes. Who don't even have a spouse to talk to at the end of the day, or worse, have a spouse who wants to yell at them at the end of the day because of. Custodial rights and that sort of thing. So yes. Um, you know, it's not, we're not on that same level. Mm-hmm. , but yet solo parenting requires its own sort of magic.
Yes. . Yeah, definitely. Definitely it does. Okay. Well that might even play into what I'm gonna ask you next, which is, you know, all of us have things going on. Like we can all certainly sit down and give you a run. On the wonderful, beautiful things that are going on in our lives, but all of us have our challenges that we're facing down every day too.
So I wanted to ask you, what are some of the challenges that you're facing right now in this current moment in life? I think the biggest [00:42:00] challenge. Is kind of, it goes from what I was just saying, which is that I have kids who are now four and a half to 13 mm. And so I'm out of that toddler stage and that baby stage.
And there's, as much as I loved my babies, I was just looking at some old video this morning of ki my youngest just a couple years ago, and he's this chubby face little guy and he's like, ha, mama, you know how they talk and you're all, oh, it's so sweet. But, but. , it's wonderful to be here. I will say that as well.
Yes. Yeah, to just be able to have a little bit more autonomy and I feel a little bit of freedom coming back to me that I've just not had Sure in a long time. But with that, the challenge that I'm facing is that I have all these different age kids, and so my life is getting ready to change in really dramatic ways this year of 2015, because.
next school year in September, when everybody goes back to school, I will have a high schooler, brand new. Mm. Ellie will go to high school. [00:43:00] My second will go to middle school, and then my baby will go to kindergarten and it will be all day, every day, kindergarten, which none of my kids have done. Yeah. Up to this point.
So I that I feel like my whole being right now is focused on the fact that these last few months of this school year, Are all that I have left of life as I know it. Yes. As I've come to say this is, I've been at home and we've all, even up till now, we all still have the same start time for school. Mm-hmm.
you know, so basically, anyway, my kids get picked up for the boss at eight 30 and school starts for, even since Natalie's at a Christian school. Mm-hmm. , um, even though she's in eighth grade, she still starts at eight 50. You know, we're just, we've been on this same routine for a long time and I've always had somebody at home.
So Kiran goes to preschool a few mornings a week this year, which again, that was life changing. Yes. First time I even had some time. Yeah. To myself, that wasn't like paid childcare. Right. Um, but. I feel this weight of change that's coming like a wave that's coming towards you and you can see it [00:44:00] approaching and you know, it has all kinds of energy to it.
Yes. And you're going, oh, I just wanna surf it. Well, yeah. So I'm, right now, I'm just enjoying the relative calm that we have and, and destroying up all this energy Yes. For the new life stage that approaches me. Yeah. I can't wait to see what the coming months are going to bring for. , that's going to be really huge.
Really huge. Right? Because not only does it change my kids, but I'm thinking then do I go back to work? And, and if I do, what do I do? And it's just, I think that when you have, especially young children, you look down at them. Mm-hmm. , and I think that's the way it should be. But it's like, right now I feel like my eyes are starting to look out.
Yes. On the horizon. And I haven't really looked out . Yeah. You know, in a sustained sort of way. For a long time. For a long time. I cannot wait to see what is around the VIN for you. I love that idea of the like, like a wave. I love that. Mm-hmm. , that's so, so appropriate. So, okay. Well the last thing I wanted to ask you then is [00:45:00] what.
is the thing that you are just always talking about, that you have so much enthusiasm for that you're so into that you find you are always bringing it up to people whether they wanna hear about it or not. , oh my word. Okay. So I laughed at this question cause I thought, I bet I could take a survey of my friends.
Yes. And they would. The right thing. Yes, yes, yes. Which is really, okay. Well we've already talked about food, so I'm gonna say, obviously I love to talk about food and recipes. I love to cook. Yes. So, you know, my awesome thing in the week is a demonstration of that. But the other thing that is kind of geeky, that I will talk anybody's ear off is weather
I love to talk about the weather. I love the. I'm fascinated by it and my friends joke, but they are not really joking that they will call me and say, I don't even watch the weather anymore, Kelly. Cause I will call you and say, so do I need a sweatshirt on Friday or not? [00:46:00] Kelly has texted me to be like, you know, you're under a tornado warning, right?
And sometimes I don't. And I'll be like, well, thank goodness that Kelly knows true story people. And if you just wanna send me your, you know, zip codes, I will also be watching the weather for you because this is what I do. That is amazing. Have you always, like, as a kid, were you into it? Is this something that developed when you worked in the newsroom?
Tell me the history of your obsession with weather. You are the only person I. I know cause that's why I see I sing is weather. This is called Burying Your Most Geeky Soul on the interwebs people. Yes. Um, I have always been obsessed with weather and I think, you know, do you look back with it at your childhood self and just feels so much like she was so.
Pitiful in some ways, but yet you love her so much? Oh my gosh, absolutely. Yes. Because I look back at some of the things I did when I was, you know, upper elementary, maybe middle school age, like I used to tape, this is dating me. I [00:47:00] taped things on the, on the pcr? Mm-hmm. , no, no, no, no. Not even the vcr, like on my actual tape recorder.
Would. On your boombox? Yes. On my boombox, I would tape the intros to TV shows and I recorded like all of the 80. Best TV shows, like the A Team, the Cosby Show, the Facts of Life, which we weren't even allowed to watch. Like all of these, yo I know, it's the whole like, you know, Christian sub sort of thing.
That's just really weird. But I, I taped all of these, like that was my, you know, like I made that a mission like one summer. So somewhere in my basement I have an actual tape. Oh my gosh. Of all of these like things, and I would keep it on pause, then I would unpause it. Oh my gosh. And I would hold the boombox up to the tv.
This is the best thing I've ever heard, , and like I've made my own radio station. K L L Y. Oh my god. . . So this is the child that you were talking about, right? So it should not surprise you that because I grew interested in the weather and my dad grew up on a farm, so I think he was also interested in weather and probably passed it to me.
[00:48:00] Real information. No, that is, that is legit. Um, yes. My mother-in-law grew up on a farm and she is very sensitive to the weather. Not like, I mean, I wouldn't say that she geeks out of it. Not like she, like, she keeps an eye on it way more than I do. I think that that does influence because as you know, people who are in agriculture know you are really Yes.
Um, The actual wins of Fortune Yes. Literally and metaphorically, uh, influence your, your, uh, profit and, and these types of things in a very real way. So I do think that that has a big. Part, it's your life. Yeah, and I think probably here in Minnesota, you know, we're so far away from the moderating effects of the ocean.
Yes. That just like Oklahoma to some degree, we get all kinds of weather. So it is a big thing. If you live in a place like San Diego, I love, see, I love you San Diego, but there's no weather there, there's no, there's no weather there. And so it's just gorgeous. Every single day it is. You get up and check the weather.
It's a gorgeous day in San Diego. Every day it's San Diego. So true story, because I [00:49:00] worked in TV in both markets in Minneapolis and in San Diego. You know, Minneapolis, the weather is so important. We can put a commercial break in the middle of the weather because people will stay tuned. Yes. To find out what else is happening.
There's so much news to report. Right. In San Diego, the weather was the very end of the newscast. It got maybe two minutes on a very good day. Lots of times it was 20 seconds because I'd say Joe and we had the only, at the time, the only meteorologist in San Diego worked at our station, like a real licensed, I went to school for this meteorologist.
Mm-hmm. . Not just a cute person, not the cute girl. Not the cute weather girl. And I'd say, I'm sorry. You know, I feel for you. I mean, I am a weather geek. I would sit in his little office and we would talk weather and I'd say, but how long does it take to say Sunny and 70 the rest of the week? , see you tomorrow folks.
Yeah. That's all it is. That's all it is. Right. But here in the Midwest it's important and it's always, oh my gosh, changing. And it's dramatic. It's dramatic. Well, I don't know if Corey's told you this. I know he spent some time in Oklahoma City, um mm-hmm. in Oklahoma City. . Like the weather is the thing. Yeah, like that's, we don't have, um, cable anymore.
I [00:50:00] don't really watch tv, but you know, just growing up here, like everything leads with the weather. And when we have storms, even when I was growing up, it used to just be tornadoes, but now it's even thunderstorms or you know, if we're gonna have a big snow event, like network TV shuts down, they stay on local coverage.
It is a thing in Oklahoma City. In Oklahoma. Yes. So I can only imagine that you would be like completely, just like . I'm looking at your face right now in your life. , you're just being, I'm so sorry thinking about it. I am. I really am. And I will say this, this is true. I kind of moved back to the Midwest from San Diego.
because it was, I, I needed more weather, I needed more going on, so I regret that decision about this time of year , I'm like, you know, actually [00:51:00] 70 and sunny Kelly was really nice. It is really not something you would leave. Yeah, it did get kind of boring and yeah, as a kid, I, I remember a summer where I kept my own weather stats all the time and I would call the airport weather line, ah, to get the official, like weather.
Mm-hmm. and I would record it in my notebook. And they didn't record, um, they didn't report, I'm sorry, relative humidity back then. Uhhuh, . And I needed that for my own little. Brainiac mind. And so I would like wait, they would say, if you have further questions, please go to the line. And I would end up with somebody at the airport who took the weather and I'd be like, every day,
So what was the relative humidity today? And then I would record it. And you know, after about a month of that, they started to report the relative humidity on the actual line . So I think I may have actually changed the course of weather in Minnesota. It did change the course of weather Minnesota, single-handedly that completely redeems your short stint as the worst high school teacher.
The history Yeah. Of life. I would like to think so. Yeah. But yeah, I, that's what I will talk about. I could talk about it forever to anybody. That's [00:52:00] fantastic. I just love to find out what your weather is today and all, all of it is, it's amazing. I love it. I love it. You're, like I said, you are the only person I know with that much enthusiasm for it, and I, it almost, it's, it like inspires me to be like, I should know what's going on.
with the weather in Oklahoma City? No, you don't need to. I'm a, I'll cover that for you. You tell me what I should be watching. There's so many things that I don't know. Apparently my brain has this big slice out of it for weather and I need other people to tell me. So we should just all specialize. We should.
I will specialize in Netflix. And binge watching shows and you will cover us on the weather and I'll, I'll alert you if you're binge watching that you, maybe you need to go to the basement , because there isn't Megan. Turn off Netflix and go downstairs. There's an F four tornado headed towards you. Megan . I love it.
Oh my gosh. Okay. Well I could keep talking forever. Yes, as can you, I'm sure we could do this all day, but we are gonna have to go ahead and wrap it up. Yep. We have [00:53:00] reached the end of our time for today, but really Kelly, I am so looking forward to getting to have you on here on a regular basis. Looking forward to the Kelly shows.
Um, you know, we, you and I have talked about, and, and I've talked about too in the intro of this, , a big part of our, um, uh, show is going to be answering listener questions. Do you feel like there's, and I'm really putting you on the spot at this moment, but do you feel like there's certain categories that you can really speak to?
I mean, whether, obviously, obviously obviously, but other sort of general categories that you really do like to, um, speak to or that, that people could sort of direct their questions, like their Kelly questions? Um, oh. , I would say the things that interest me. Mm-hmm. . So maybe those are the things just because I've lived my life with these interests.
Yes. You know, are food. I love to talk about food. Okay. Right. I obviously do love to talk about weather, but you know, I love social media. Ooh. Okay. I love mm-hmm. teenagers. Yes. Um, so I'm kind [00:54:00] of excited to have a real one in my house now Yes. And see how that goes. Parenting. Cause I know how to relate to them as a youth leader, but now I'm a, I'm the mom.
Yes. Yeah. So that, um, I, I love to talk about child rearing in general. Okay. Um, because I've done it for a lot of my life. Yes. So I don't, many years by any means, think that I have like the lock answer on. . But all of those things and just relationships like we've talked about, personality things I think are so interesting.
Yeah. When you factor that into how to get along with people, so really, you know, I think that's part of the E N F P magic. I could talk about anything and be really happy about it. Yes, me too. Awesome. And that's why I think our. , this podcast, you and I has gone the longest of all of them so far. I'm so sorry.
I love it. I know, I love it. That's, it won't happen all the time. I will try to be, I don't know, not locations, let's don't make promises we can't keep, yeah. . Okay. Okay. I'll go with that. Okay. So I'm gonna let you go ahead and go and get back to your day, but thank you so much for taking time to sit down and get [00:55:00] our first episode done.
We are, yeah. We have lots of. To come where we're gonna be rocking that E N F P magic, so. Yep. Okay. Well I hope you have a great rest of your day. Thank you. Talk to you later. You will. Okay. Okay. Bye.
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